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[edit] wiki titles of pages, purpose

hi Ben.. how cool you're trying the wiki.. this is gonna be fun :) TPRS should be a simple intro/overview of TPRS for newbies.. so anyone vaguely interested in teaching foreign language can get an overview of TPRS as a teaching method.. then if in another page, ie storasking as a learning method, we can mention TPRS and link to TPRS page for more info.. so reader can get overview/info on specific page title..

so i've moved your draft to below.. you can move to an actual title like linking PQA and stories so people can refer (link) to it as a specific idea.. like Mildred..

[edit] linking PQA and stories

Below is a highly unedited text about recent changes in terms in the tprs world:

Q. I do have a question about linking pqa and stories. Please correct me if I'm wrong: I can either use Blaine's mini-stories for LICT or write my own.

A. Yes. All you need is a basic story of any kind that is connected to the structures/words you start class with. I change the deal for myself in that when i present structures i start beginning classes with single words, not groups of words (which i do later) and i only use two words, and then i try to get some PQA going out of that and only if it happens to I go to my planned story script with its three locations. So the link from pqa into stories is alwayds based on personalized infor i get from the kids. i keep that going at all costs, even the story. This method is morphing fast based on Susie's genius. it is not a trend it is a morph into being about the kids only.

Based on the chosen story, I establish meaning and ask a story around the structures. The extended reading follows the mini story. Sound right? yes with the codicile (sp?) as above of trying to milk details and keep the PQA going and only going to the story when the pqa fades, which changes daily depending. Then where does a PMS come in? a pms is a story - i dont' use the term anymore. i don't even ust tprs anymore. i prefer storyasking. And what is extended pqa? when i wrote PQA in a Wink! susie and i decided to rebrand the term passive pms and all that confusing stuff into the term pqa. to me there is

1 presenting words for a few minutes. 2 turning that into pqa with the kids. 3 extending pqa into little scenes or stories.

this used to be known as

1 establishing meaning 2 pqa 3 passive pms and pms


now re: reading. the term extended reading is a Blaine thing. He has published so many extended readings in his extended readings book. but no one ever uses more than one of them. (Jason is a master in this area, by the way of getting discussion going in an extended reading.)

but i find these readings boring. Anne Lambert and i are working on something - too complex to describe here. but in my view readings must be highly highly personalized and not canned. we can keep this discussion going cause I have a class coming in.

[edit] ownership

What is circling? How "free" is this idea - has the inventor ever lawyered up for trademark or for patent (copying the idea - should be free) rather than just copyright (copying large sections somebody's text, obviously bad)?

good question.. the TPRS method is invented and led by Blaine and developed by a large community of teachers.. the recent trademark of TPRS kinda starts a dialog about ownership of the method, which affects how the method can translate and evolve.. the core question might be: what is intent of recent TPRS trademark? why did it happen? what's gonna follow? how will ownership affect evolution and promotion of the practices?.. according to US law (not everywhere in the world), ideas can't owned.. but ideas fixed in specific text (copyright), methods (patent), and names of things (trademaks) can all be owned.. TPRS materials writers typically use copyright for text.. now TPRS materials writers include the TPRS trademark and "used by permission".. probably unlikely, but next could be a patent.. (patent claim could be complicated by emergence of circling etc from multiple teachers) note: if you're logged in sign, date wiki comments questions if you like with "~~~~" like this Duke 07:11, 23 August 2007 (PDT)
Ben here, I want to simply add that the above is a great description of the law and i am hoping soon we can come to consensus on what the TPRS trademark means to the larger tprs community. Does it limit dispensation of this very important method? if so, do we react? If so, exactly how? Ben Slavic
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